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  Facing Reality - It's a Death Cult (Romans 6: 7 Examined)

  by Sea Breeze in

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  watchtower view on romans 6: 7 examined .

  the watchtower teaches that the opportunity to be born again and enjoy complete justification with god ended in 1935, having been limited to only 144k since pentecost.

  so, it is very surprising that the watchtower embraces the death that is described in romans chapter 6, since this is the very death that is required to be born again…… which is denied to watchtower members!

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  JW's will bet their entire life on a false understanding of Romans 6: 7. They take it out of context and imagine that when they die (literally) they get a clean slate.
  
  The WT itself says differently in w85 12/1 p. 11 :
  
  While still living in the flesh, these “righteous ones” undergo a symbolic death. The apostle Paul explains: ...Therefore we were buried with him through our baptism into his death, .. . . because we know that our old personality was impaled with him ...For he who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”​—Romans 6:2-7.

  The word "acquitted should read "freed" because dead bodies can't sin anymore. That is the thought here. But all the same, the WT admits this is not talking about a physical death.
  
  So then, Why do JW's stubbornly hang on to a doctrine of self-atonement?
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  Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

  by mikeflood in

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  don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

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  Barry let Russia have Crimea in 2014 and Biden will let him have Ukraine in 2022.

  The world needs something to talk about while the next pandemic gets underway.
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  Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

  by mikeflood in

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  don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

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  Right on cue as the mask/vaccine narrative starts to seriously decline.
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  Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

  by mikeflood in

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  don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

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  I for one welcome our new WW3 overlords.

  What do you mean by that Mr. Roboto?
  
  
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  How To Heal a Sick Mind According to the Watchtower

  by Sea Breeze in

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  healing for sickness of mind.

  many who are mentally and spiritually sick are not confined in mental institutions.

  millions are held in restraint, however, in institutions of another kind, religious organizations.... by his prophet god expressed his disgust with such methods and those who practice them.

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  Healing for Sickness of Mind

  Many who are mentally and spiritually sick are not confined in mental institutions. Millions are held in restraint, however, in institutions of another kind, religious organizations.... By his prophet God expressed his disgust with such methods and those who practice them. He tells them their ceremonies are worthless, their prayers vain. (Is, 1:10) Those who would be well spiritually must “learn to do well.”

  This Jehovah’s witnesses do and also delight to help others to do. During November Jehovah’s witnesses will continue to preach...from house to house... A curative, spiritually rich Bible-study aid book will be offered to all on a contribution of only 50c.

  Be sure to share in the healing work.

  w57 10/15 p. 640

  So there you have it! Get out of your worthless religious organization and get into theirs and start selling "curative" Bible-study "aids".

  Our ancestors fell for this snake oil?
  
  
  
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  Why does the Lord always want to take his fury against innocent animals?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  genesis 6. .

  5 the lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.

  6 the lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.

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  Animals are not made in the image of God. Originally man had the same moral character as God. Then, he took on another nature.

  The wages of sin is death.

  So, sacrificing innocent animals not only provided meals for those hungry, they also provided a substitute for the death required by law for sinning. It was a vicarious death of the sinner that was enacted.
  
  Likewise, Jesus died a substitute death for all those that would believe that his sacrifice would be sufficient on their behalf to be grafted back into God's family and receive the original moral character of God .
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  Are JW's Sins Forgiven? NO - (Says the Watchtower)

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone who has been of this forum in the past few days has seen doubting thomas (an active jw) refuse over and over to provide even one scripture that can show how a jw can get their sins forgiven while outside of the new covenant as described in mt.

  26: 27-28. yet, he claims to believe in the blood covering of jesus while at the same time personally rejecting the new covenant "for forgiveness of sins".

  his contradictory claims are common among jw's.

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  @ Rattigan,

  • Jehovah is our father because he was our creater
    
    Nope. WT has never back tracked on the fact that Jehovah is not the father of R & F witnesses. God does not recognize the devil as his son, though he created him. Christians are born sons of Adam.... like everyone else but are grafted into the family of God by adoption. R & F witnesses are not adopted but are still trying to get into the family another way.

    Yes, Jws are declared righteous from faith and when their sins are removed.

    Only, their sins are not removed because they publicly reject the New Covenant "for the forgiveness of sins as described in Mr. 26: 27-27

    And, Yes, Jesus is the mediator for the anointed only because only they need a mediator.

    Wrong, All are sinners. All will be judged after they die (Hebrews 9:27). All need a Mediator.

    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; - 1 Tim. 2: 5
    

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  What are some of the weird teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses, past and present?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i just picked up a few from mark jones as follows:.

  i see is that the vast majority of jws don't seem to understand what their religion actually teaches.. the more controversial or embarrassing doctrine - although still official doctrine that has never been rescinded - is just not talked about anymore in the magazines.

  there are dinosaurs living on venus.https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/2fowhx/dinosaurs_on_venus/.

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  Doctors and politicians demonic ? They finally got something right!

  
  
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  Facing Reality - It's a Death Cult (Romans 6: 7 Examined)

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower view on romans 6: 7 examined .

  the watchtower teaches that the opportunity to be born again and enjoy complete justification with god ended in 1935, having been limited to only 144k since pentecost.

  so, it is very surprising that the watchtower embraces the death that is described in romans chapter 6, since this is the very death that is required to be born again…… which is denied to watchtower members!

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  The WT heresy on "self-atonement" has lead to suicide and murder. It is a very dangerous cult:

  Before Laura killed her family, she wrote: “I had to kill them, it was the only way to save them.”

  See: A Jehovah’s Witness Murders Family to “Save” Them from Armageddon

  We sincerely have no desire to become untruthful, mentally diseased...and...antichristian as teachers.

  w63 11/1 pp. 655-663
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  What are some of the weird teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses, past and present?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just picked up a few from mark jones as follows:.

  i see is that the vast majority of jws don't seem to understand what their religion actually teaches.. the more controversial or embarrassing doctrine - although still official doctrine that has never been rescinded - is just not talked about anymore in the magazines.

  there are dinosaurs living on venus.https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/2fowhx/dinosaurs_on_venus/.

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  • Who Are Following the Light of the World?

  • • 12. Who make up the true light-bearing organization today?

      12 It can confidently be said that the new world society of Jehovah’s Witnesses is the true, light-bearing organization today.

    • w93 4/1 pp. 13-18 - The Watchtower—1993

  John 9:5

  "I am the light of the world.” - Jesus